Rep. Dusty Johnson writes in his Washington Report, (“Transparency Matters,” Press & Dakotan, Oct 21): “The impeachment process unfolding in the House over the last several weeks should cause pause for all members of Congress and the American people.” After reading the recent Associated Press headline: “GOP storms secure hearing room, delaying impeachment deposition,” the law abiding South Dakotans I know of in my native state may indeed pause and arrive at a different view than Johnson on his party’s impeachment tactics.

This headline conjures up scenes reminiscent of Germany’s Third Reich when the brown-shirted storm troopers organized to promote the rise of Adolf Hitler to power. The sight and sound of two dozen Republican members of the House of Representatives forcefully occupying a legally constituted congressional hearing on impeachment and “just screaming about the president” is chilling. Then they ordered pizza and tweeted to the world of their invasion.

Hitler’s storm troopers, made up of various roughneck elements, were used to protect party meetings, march in Nazi rallies and physically assault political opponents. Today’s GOP storm troopers break up lawfully constituted impeachment hearings, attempt to intimidate witnesses and attach themselves to a president who is in the process of slow removal as evidence mounts that he has violated our Constitution to achieve personal gain.

Two Republicans alone may escape the harsh judgment of Dante’s “Inferno” that: “The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.” Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) has emerged as the only outspoken dissident in Trump’s Republican Party. Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.) has stated that the “picture emerging on President Donald Trump’s Ukraine actions is ‘not a good one.’”

Rep. Johnson might take another look at the matter and read again his oath of office when he took his seat in Congress: “I, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.”

 Dante’s prediction is prescient for today’s GOP storm troopers: “The world will let no fame of theirs endure; both justice and compassion must disdain them; let us not talk of them, but look and pass.”

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ClownsRus

Great quote, Mr. Lyons! (Are you a South Dakota expat?) No matter - your line is so spot on: “The darkest places in h*ll are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.” Let’s take up a collection to buy flashlights for the vast majority of GOP Congressmen and Senators who tremble in fear of a tweet from the Donald, while they let the Russians eat our lunch. Maybe we should call them “flashlight Patriots”?

DLJohnson

Storm Troopers and Democrats oh my, oh my. Whatever shall we do? Such vivid visuals of the inside of a Democrat's mind. I now understand Schiff's rambling interpretation of the phone call between President Trump and the Ukrainian President. The Democrats do not have the ability to accurately state, represent or relay what actually happened. Now the Democrats in congress are going to have a vote to continue with the impeachment inquiry to show the Republicans that they really, really, really mean it this time. The kind of mentality you find on a children's playground. Actually the children appear to be far more mature in their behavior than the Democrats.

antiteaparty

Because the denseness of your skull allows very little information to be absorbed, here is what the Democrats are holding impeachment hearings for: Dump extorted the President of Ukraine by threatening to withhold aid unless the Ukrainian President investigated Dump's political rival. Read that sentence slowly and multiple times. Even doing that I doubt the information will soak through as Members of the Cult live in an alternate universe.

DLJohnson

antiteaparty: Where is the extortion? The President of the Ukraine states that he was not pressured and that there was no quid pro quo. How can there be extortion if the so called victim did not feel pressured, did not feel threatened and that he did not feel duress?

Generally speaking, criminal coercion involves making threats or using force with the purpose of unlawfully restricting someone else's freedom to engage in or refrain from engaging in a certain act. There was no threat to the President of the Ukraine in the phone conversation and there was no force. Where was the loss of freedom to engage or refrain to engage to the President of the Ukraine?

Where's the victim in your/ the Democrats scenario of extortion? How can there be extortion or criminal extortion if the supposed victim of your scenario has come forward and stated that he was not pressured, was not forced and was not extorted or coerced? No victim equals no crime. President Trump did not say to the President of the Ukraine, that he was " going to withhold aid unless the Ukrainian President investigated Dump's political rival". That was formulated in the minds of the Democrats and pro Democrat media.

antiteaparty

No worries, DL. All of your Rethuglican produced and mass distributed talking points will be shot down in the impeachment hearings. They will be public. All these National Security personnel will be testifying in front of the whole country shooting down everything you just wrote. It really will be something to watch. There is nothing better than watching Rethuglicans move the goalposts.

Jolly Roger

★ Notice DLJohnson’s posts contain fewer and fewer facts - even false ones. Her Fox and Friends debate coaches haven’t done much besides make false claims about the Democrats’ process. They’ve offered no defense of what Donald actually did. Except to say “So What? Get used to it. It’s not really illegal, anyway.” But now that there’s going to be a House vote to impeach followed by public hearings what will they say? ( Something else of course. They’ll still keep stonewalling.) And even the charge that this is all third or second hand testimony is blown out of the water by Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, who listened in on Donald’s shakedown call to the Ukrainians and is giving a first hand account. Ms. DLJohnson is sounding desperate. She needs to get to work on more snarky distractions.

DLJohnson

Jolly Roger: So you are saying the Lt. Col Vindman is going to accuse the President of Ukraine of lying when he says that he was pushed, coerced or threatened. That will do a lot for his career. I'm still trying to figure out what you dimwitted Democrats are hanging your hat as being a high crime or misdemeanor. I'm sorry, but hurting your feelings does not rise to high crime and misdemeanors.

Also, are you saying that Nancy Pelosi lied when she stated that the vote being taken on Thursday is to reaffirm that Democrats are going to continue doing what they have been doing. Where in there did she say that this was going to be a vote to impeach and that they are going to have public testimony? Are you now putting words in your puppet master's mouth? I think I am going to enjoy seeing you crushed by your own undoing.

dmilroy

To Rep. Dusty Johnson's credit, he did not take part in the publicity stunt by his Republican colleagues but Mr. Johnson remains silent regarding President Trump's abuse of power. President Donald Trump stood on the lawn of the White House on Thursday Oct 3, 2019 and, in front of the entire world, called on foreign powers to interfere in American elections. Why hasn't Mr. Johnson condemned Mr. Trump's abuse of power? He swore an oath to uphold the U.S. Constitute which includes to ensuring our American tradition of free and fair elections. Why is Congressman Johnson shirking his duty?

DLJohnson

dmilroy: Abuse of power???? Don't you actually mean Pelosi, Nadler, Schumer, Schiff and the Democratic Caucus when you state abuse of power?

Jolly Roger

★ Remember “Baghdad Bob”? After we invaded Iraq in March of 2003, he appeared daily on TV predicting American failure and denying the Baghdad invasion - sometimes even as American tanks appeared behind him. Like Baghdad Bob, DLJohnson’s laughable denying of the facts is the same false Bravado. Nothing can convince her that her man is on the ropes. Meanwhile, the evidence she denies mounts. And when the Nancy P and the House reach the stage of public hearings and the release of critical documents, it’s easy to predict DLJ will still persist in covering her ears and chanting, “Can’t hear! Can’t hear, lah, lah, lah, lah, lah. And you’re a doo doo head!”

dmilroy

Mr. DLJohnson, As the courts have noted, the Constitution gives the power of oversee the Federal government and the power to impeachment impeach the President of the United States to the House of Representatives. The courts recognizes that the impeachment inquiry fully comports with the Constitution and thoroughly rejects the spurious White House claims to the contrary.

DLJohnson

antiteaparty: The truth won't be shot down. The fairy tales of the Democrats will be proven to be the lies and fantasy that they are. The Democrats will be shrinking away and screaming, I'm melting, I'm melting just like the wicked witch of the west in the Wizard of Oz. It will be a great sight. I plan to have my popcorn ready.

antiteaparty

[whistling] You are deep down the rabbit hole. Possibly delusional. I hope you don't hurt anyone when your Dear Leader gets impeached.

DLJohnson

antiteaparty: Your are "Hillary- ous", still on your merry-go-round, going in circles with no straight path in life. Trying to imagine how big the pop will be when your bubble bursts.

antiteaparty

You're merry-go-round comment is great and I look forward to reading it hundreds of more times in the few months because you lack creativity to come up with anything else.

DLJohnson

Jolly Roger: I see that you are still stuck on the playground merry-go-round. Still going in circles with no direction in life. You may want to meet with some toddlers so you can acquire some class. But, you may be too far gone for them to even help you.

dmilroy

Mr. DLJohnson, I warned you before you should be careful what you wish for. Both you and President Trump wanted the House to start a impeachment. When they did you complained about the process. Both you and President Trump requested open hearings and a vote from the full house on the impeachment hearings. You will get your wish tomorrow. Your assumption that, "The fairy tales of the Democrats will be proven to be the lies and fantasy that they are" is not supported by the evidence already made public. Text messages provided to Congress by a former U.S. diplomat back up the initial account from an intelligence community whistleblower. We heard President Trump publicly request the Chinese Government investigate his political opponents. We know from the testimony released to the public by Ambassador William Taylor’s attorney that the Ambassador laid out a detailed timeline shows President Trump suspended military aid to Ukraine to pressure its president, Volodymyr Zelensky, into opening up an investigation into Hunter Biden and the Ukrainian natural gas company Burisma.

Mr. Trump has used the power, prestige and leverage of his office to pressure foreign heads of state to do his political dirty work. Even in an era when deviancy has been defined downward, this is shocking! But with each day we learn that it just the tip of the iceberg of corruption. The open Congressional hearings you want will expose both Mr. Trump's conduct and those who attempts to cover-up his high crimes and misdemeanors.

DLJohnson

dmilroy: Your experience is going to be utter delight at a morsel of information only to be devastated when the full story comes out. Don't distress there is help available for when your PTSD sets in.

dmilroy

Mr. DLJohnson, the information that is already public is devastating for President Trump. The open hearings both you and Mr. Trump demand will be more of the same.

A Republican congressman on Wednesday confirmed Army Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman, Director for European Affairs at the National Security Council told impeachment investigators that at least two portions of the July phone call between President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky were omitted from the summary of the conversation released by the White House. https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/30/alexander-vindman-ukraine-testimony-impeachment-061639 Vindman's testimony contradicts Trump's claim Ukraine call transcript was exact

OnTheFence2020

DLJohnson, my family is pretty divided politically and the anti-Trump people talk more about impeachment than the others. But mostly we don’t talk. Clearly you aren’t reluctant to talk. So my question: how do I tell the difference between the impeachment of Bill Clinton and the coming impeachment of Donald Trump?

DLJohnson

It boils down not affording due process and lack of transparency by the Democrats in the most recent case. We Americans have been raised on the principle of fair play and basing decisions on the evidence and facts. When the public is fed tidbits of information released from a secret process we are skeptical as to the veracity of that information.

I really believe that some members of congress has forgotten the the public is their jury. Members of congress have given us all enough reason to seriously question their ability to be truthful and honest. I can decide for myself, I don't need them telling me how to think and what to decide. That goes for both sides of the aisle.

OnTheFence2020

But I’m being told the Democrats procedure of today is the same as the Republican procedure for “randy pants” Bill Clinton???

DLJohnson

dmilroy: So you are saying that the 15+ individuals listening in on the the phone call and taking notes conspired to produce a document that intentionally omitted exculpatory information? So what do you propose we do with these so called "conspirators"? Or do we have a case of some people with an ax to grind with Trump, whether they be Obama Administration hold overs or deep state operatives?

How about interviewing all personnel listening in on the phone call, put them under oath, ask them what was omitted and ask for their proof of the omissions? They should be made to prove any accusation they bring forth. Wait a minute, that would be due process and the Democrats don't believe in that. How about we collect all the notes penned by the personnel listening in on the call and compare those notes to the released transcript/summary?

If exculpatory information was omitted, more than a couple of the listeners would have the information in their notes that was omitted. If only a couple note such information in their notes......then I think there is a very high probability there was no such exculpatory information omitted. (So for the word count. I forgot you have a problem with big numbers).

dmilroy

"So you are saying that the 15+ individuals listening in on the the phone call and taking notes conspired to produce a document that intentionally omitted exculpatory information?" No. Army Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman, Director for European Affairs at the National Security Council was clearly not apart of the attempt to hide Mr. Trump's conduct. Nor were others on the listening on the conversation. Interviewing eveyone envolved is an obvious first step, yet you assert it is unfair. Both you and Mr. Trump have gotten the public hearings into his conduct you requested. Your arguments about process are just so much chin music. Facts and evidence are important. Your unsupported conspiracy theories are meaningless.

DLJohnson

dmilroy: Nowhere did I assert interviewing everyone involved is unfair. What is unfair is doing the interviews in secret and then leaking tidbits of information where the interviewee states that conduct of the President was troubling. What was troubling? What were the words of the President? What were the answers to questions asked by Republican members of the committee? Those questions were not answered by the tidbits leaked by Schiff.

Yes the public hearings. We get rid of the tidbit leaking by Schiff and we get hear the whole testimony and answers to questions from both sides of the aisle.

Are you willing to be the subject on the receiving end of conduct the likes of which the Democrats in congress have used toward President Trump? And how do you explain the Ukrainian President stating that there was no pressure , no quid pro quo?

dmilroy

Mr. DLJohnson, your unsupported assertions are either false and/or meaningless. For example: Army Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman, Director for European Affairs at the National Security Council opening statement was "leaked" by his attorney. We don't know the question asked in a close hearing because it is not open to the public but only to Republican and Democratic members of the committees. The founding fathers included impeachment as a power for the House of Representatives because the for saw people of low character like Mr. Trump rising to high public office.

Without the support for the U.S. , the Ukrainian President is at the mercy of the murderous leader of Russia who is instigating a war in Eastern Ukraine. That is why they are such an easy target for Mr. Trump's extortion. Given President Trump's fondness for Vladimir Putin, you can understand why President Volodymyr Zelensk of Ukraine will agree to anything President Trump tells him.

DLJohnson

OntheFence2020: Much different. The impeachment of Clinton, involved an Independent Counsel, a grand jury and report from the Independent Counsel to the House Judiciary Committee citing 11 possible grounds for impeachment in four categories: perjury, obstruction of justice, witness tampering and abuse of power. There was no investigation by the House Judiciary Committee.

dmilroy

DLJohnson, the Trump DOJ refused to investigate the criminal referrals sent to it regarding Mr. Trump's conduct. Trump's attorney general who was implicated in his attempts to get Ukraine to interfere in the 2020 election has not recused himself nor appointed a special consul to investigate. The House of Representative's role in investigating and impeachment are mandated by the Constitution. Mr. Trump's conduct and the conduct of those who evolved in its cover-up will be expose in the impeachment hearings.

DLJohnson

milroy: Muller didn't work out for the Democrats.I am beginning to believe that every election for President will result in the loosing party moving to impeach. Is that what you advocate?

DLJohnson

dmilroy: The DOJ determined the referrals were not violations of the campaign finance laws, no violation no crime. What is the crime you are saying occurred and what is the law violated? Troubling is not a crime.

DLJohnson

dmilroy: I just learned that you are regurgitating the CNN propaganda line. The Gospel according to CNN is the word you follow. Let me see, was CNN wrong about their prediction of the 2016 election? They took that really personal.

dmilroy

Mr. DLJohnson, Your dismissal of the investigation into President Trump's high crimes and misdemeanors by claiming it's just "CNN propaganda line" defies common sense. The testimony of Trump administration officials in the State Department and the NSC confirm the allegations against Mr. Trump. Trump's attempts to obstruct the investigation extend well beyond the DOJ refusing to investigate the criminal referrals. Transcripts are no being release and we will soon have public testimony. Mr. Trump's refusals to let top White House officials testify is far from a good sign for Mr. Trump. Mr. Mueller was sworn in as Special Counsel to investigate Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections and suspicious links between Trump associates and Russian officials. Every federal office holder who violates the law by asking foreign governments to intervene in our election should be impeached.

Putin

Yes, DLJohnson, “CNN was wrong about their prediction of the 2016 election. They took that really personal.” It was one of my proudest accomplishments. Especially since it set up my iron grip on the Ukrainians and the “unmatched wisdom” of your Republicans’ decision to abandon the Kurds with their withdrawal from Syria. Thanks so much. Your erudite агитпроп (agitprop or propaganda) is so much more sophisticated than Iman’s pathetic flounderings. Keep up the good work! Whether Comrade Donald get impeached or not, I don’t care - my work here has just begun. Make Russia Great Again!!

DLJohnson

dmilroy/Putin: Your split personality is starting to become serious. The left brain/right brain conflict is starting to consume you. I hope you get help with that.

Jolly Roger

★ I love it when DLJohnson has nothing to say except lame insults. She never bests antiteaparty, dmilroy, or bjs12258 on the facts - though sometimes she does regurgitate the Fox & Friends line pretty accurately. But that’s not enough against folks who are informed. Yet the insults have got to be irritating. Still, remember it’s an admission of defeat. This will be lost on her, but it won’t be lost on the people who silently check in. Respectful, but insistent pushback is the best policy for you rational types... Maybe I’ll consider it some day. ⚔️

dmilroy

Mr. DLJohnson, irrational personal attacks are not a sign of a well-considered post.

DLJohnson

Did you read the transcript of the Yovanovitch testimony? Interesting how the Democrat chairman would correct her testimony apparently to what he wanted it to be. I also found it interesting how the chairman would prevent the witness from answering some questions posed by the Republican members.

It appeared that Ms. Yovanovitch was rather upset that she lost her position as ambassador for the Ukraine. It appears that the host nation's new government was not confident in her abilities to foster and maintain a positive relationship between the two countries. It also appears that she was upset that she was not in the know of what Rudy Giuliani's mission or purpose was.

It also appears that she developed her opinion on the phone call from media reports. It appears that she preferred the spin put out by CNN and MSNBC. No first hand information but making decisions based on a news agency's interpretation.

dmilroy

The testimony of Ambassador Yovanovitch was extremely damaging to President Trump. https://www.npr.org/2019/11/04/776075849/read-former-ukraine-ambassador-yovanovitchs-testimony-to-congress

Your idea the Ambassador Yovanovitch's testimony was a trick by Democrats is not support by the transcripts. Ambassador Yovanovitch testified that she was removed from her position as ambassador due to "false claims" she was attempting to undermine the Trump administration. The diplomat said she sought advice from Gordon Sondland, Trump's ambassador to the European Union, after an article appeared in The Hill newspaper about Giuliani's complaints against her. Sondland told her, "'You need to go big or go home," advising her to "tweet out there that you support the president." Yovanovitch said she felt she could not follow that advice as a nonpartisan government official.

The transcripts indicate that, despite repeated claims that they have been prevented from taking part in the impeachment inquiry, Republican members have spent many hours questioning witnesses. In some cases, the Republican members pressed the diplomats on detailed points of inquiry. In others, they used their time behind closed doors to criticize the impeachment process or to challenge the integrity of the witnesses.

Mr. DLJohnson, you need to read the transcript again. The chairman did not prevent Ambassador Yovanovitch from answering any questions. I encourage everyone to read the transcripts.

DLJohnson

dmilroy: Don't spout the reporting of a media source. Read the transcript yourself and state your own interpretation of the testimony. And remember the lead in by the questioners is not testimony. The Chairman (Schiff) stopped her three to four times from answering questions posed by Republican committee members. You need to read it. A minimum of five times Schiff interrupted , stating for clarity, giving his view of how she should have answered and then asked if that is what she meant.

In her mind she rationalized her removal due to "false claims" that she was trying to undermine the president. It appears that she was coming up with excuses as to why confidence was lost in her ability to be effective. Fact; she served at the pleasure of the President and is subject to removal from the position of ambassador at any time.

Are you holding her bag of sour grapes?

dmilroy

Mr. DLJohnson, please review the transcript. I will provide the link again: https://www.npr.org/2019/11/04/776075849/read-former-ukraine-ambassador-yovanovitchs-testimony-to-congress Chairman Schiff did not prevent Ambassador Yovanovitch from answering any questions. Chairm Schiff asking Ambassador Yovanovitch to claify her answer is standerd proceedure in any investigation. You implication that Ambassador Yovanovitch is too naive or unsophisticated to understand her answers is not supported by the transcript. Ambassador Yovanovitch's testimony about Mr. Trump's whisper-campaign to remove her has been substantiated by the testimony of other. Removing a sitting ambassador to further your corrupt plot to extort the President of the Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden is an abuse of power.

antiteaparty

Ahahahahaha! The Sondland testimony was just released (just what the Rethuglicans wanted - transparency) and it is completely devastating to DL, Dump, Faux News and the rest of the Rethuglican talking points. The whole thing was straight up extortion. Either Ukraine came out and said that they were investigating Burisma and Biden or they wouldn't get funding already appropriated by Congress.

DLJohnson

antiteaparty: I just read it also. How can your interpretation be so far off from what is actually in the transcript? How is investigating corruption in Ukraine not relevant? Facts: 1) Corruption is rampant in Ukraine; 2) Ukraine received their aide; 3) The future purchase of javelin missiles was not part of the aide package and 4) evidence pointing to Ukraine's involvement in affecting the DNC server during 2016 U.S. election and the Steele dossier needs to be resolved. Is that a nervous laugh you are projecting?

Just waiting to read the transcript of Volker. [scared][scared]

antiteaparty

Ahahahahahaha! The spin comes so quickly from Faux News these days.

Straight from Sondland's revised (for fear he had perjured himself) testimony : Mr. Giuliani emphasized that the President wanted a public statement from President Zelensky committing Ukraine to look into anti-corruption issues. Mr. Giuliani SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED THE 2016 ELECTION, INCLUDING THE DNC SERVER, AND BURISMA (read: Biden) AS TWO ANTICORRUPTION INVESTIGATORY TOPICS OF IMPORTANCE FOR THE PRESIDENT.

antiteaparty

There was no Ukraine involvement in the DNC server and the Steele dossier. That is Faux News disinformation that bumbleheads like Dump believe. Nunes tried to talk about it in Sondland's testimony and ended up looking like quite the fool.

dmilroy

Mr. DLJohnson, there is no evidence pointing to Ukraine's involvement in affecting the DNC server during 2016 U.S. election and the Steele dossier." You've fallen for an Internet hoax. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/29/business/media/fact-check-biden-ukraine-burisma-china-hunter.html

Ukraine received their aide after the Trump/Guilaini extortion attempt reported by a whistle-blower complaint.

In March 2018, Trump approved the $47 million sale of 210 Javelin anti-tank missiles and 37 launchers to Ukraine. In the infamous phone call Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskiy said his country was ready "to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes." President Trump responded: “I would like you to do us a favor though.” Trump suggested that Zelensky look into “the server” and mentioned CrowdStrike and the Bidens.

This does not appear to be the first time Mr. Trump has used Javelin anti-tank missiles to extort the Ukrainians. In April 2018, just weeks after the U.S. State Department approved a $47 million sale of Javelins to Ukraine, Kyiv halted investigations by an anti-corruption prosecutor into Trump’s former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, who worked for a decade for a pro-Russian political party in Ukraine, in an apparent effort not to rock the boat in Washington. The on-going impeachment hearings will need to investigate not only Mr. Trump's current abuse of power but his past abuses of power. https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/09/25/did-trump-leverage-a-missile-sale-to-ukraine-for-political-gain/

Jolly Roger

Our very own “Baghdad Bobbi” is about to get all the transparency and first hand accounts she can handle. Somehow I’m eager to see how she’ll respond. Most likely lame insults and reams of disinformation nobody but dmilroy and antiteaparty bother to read.

DLJohnson

Jolly Roger: It is nice that you keep us apprised of your mental maturity. I am confident that with hard work and lots of study you may have some success in life. Hang in there Buddy. So what do you plan on doing the evening of election day 2020; playing in traffic, jumping off a bridge, packing up and leaving the country? Just try to see what goals you have set for yourself. Let us know what we can do to help you achieve your goal.

ClownsRus

Hey, DLJohnson! Last night the Kentucky Governorship went to the Dems! Trump had won there by 30% in 2016! Even though the loser ran hard on his love for Trump and Trumpsters’ Impeachment Outrage, it didn’t work. Not even after Trump’s big rally. Remember your words, “Your fantasy will turn into your nightmare in 2020. You will reap what you sow!... It will be a great sight. I plan to have my popcorn ready.” By golly, DJ, the Dems even flipped the Virginia Senate and House, too. A red state turns blue. Jeez, could this be a sign of what’s to come? Don’t choke on your popcorn, sweetheart!

DLJohnson

clownsRus: Kentucky's governor may have turned Blue, but the AG and both chambers of the house went Red. What can we say about Virginia other than then have a history of "succeeding" from a union. Or better said, the B.S. from Washington, DC really does run down hill.

antiteaparty

Ahahahahaha! When Dump took office there were 34 Rethuglican governors and 15 Democratic governors. In January (when those just elected take office) there will be 26 Rethuglican governors and 24 Democratic governors. Sure DL, there is no Dump backlash. [lol]

DLJohnson

dmilroy: You must have been present in the Ukraine to state with so much certainty that Ukraine was not involved in the DNC server and the Steele dossier. Do we need to alert Schiff so he can get you called in to testify under oath in front of his committee? Don't you think that would be your patriotic duty seeing as how you profess to have knowledge on the subject?

dmilroy

"You must have been present in the Ukraine to state with so much certainty that Ukraine was not involved in the DNC server and the Steele dossier." No it is a well documented hoax. The CIA, FBI, the Mueller Investigation and the Republican lead Intel Committee have all determined the Russian government was behind. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/08/business/senate-report-russia-election.html You, Donald Trump and Rudolph Giuliani have unsupported have fallen for a Internet conspiracy theory. https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2019/sep/27/trump-mentioned-crowdstrike-conspiracy-during-his-/ This is an impeachment inquire on Mr. Trump not Congressional Intel Chairman Adam Schiff.

DLJohnson

dmilroy: I find it interesting that you cite a "news reporter" as your authority on fact. Can't you ever cite someone with first hand knowledge? You are relying on the "spin" of a reporter.

antiteaparty

That's rich coming from someone that takes Dump's word as gospel.

dmilroy

Mr. DLJohnson, Neither the CIA nor the FBI nor the Mueller Investigation nor the Republican lead Intel Committee is a news reporter. All have determined the DNC hack was a Russian government operation.

DLJohnson

And we can rely on the honesty and truthfulness of Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Struck, McCabe and Page? And you believe people think your trust is well placed?

antiteaparty

Thanks for your insight, Sean/Tucker/Laura/Lou.

dmilroy

We don't need to. The reports from the CIA, from the FBI, from the Mueller Investigation and from the Republican lead Senate Intel Committee all show the DNC hack was doing by the Russian Government.

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